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		<title>By: Curvy Thin Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.starling-fitness.com/archives/2007/04/23/a-fat-rant-by-joy-nash/#comment-213642</link>
		<dc:creator>Curvy Thin Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 17:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I do kickboxing, pilates, belly dancing, African-dance, yoga and basic calisthenics. Oh, I also run in the fall/spring. I do not believe in dieting. I just eat the foods that I love in moderation. It&#039;s called MENTAL WILLPOWER! I&#039;m in great shape. To be honest, I have very little sympathy for the women who are complaining about discriminiation and obesity. As a minority, I find it quite absurd actually. If I whined about every racial remark or discrimination I have encountered, I wouldn&#039;t have room left to breathe. I just simply ignore it. The world is harsh. Get over it!
 I find it quite ironic that most women object to the idealistic beauty standards &#039;supposedly&#039; set forth by men &amp; the media. But yet, buy Cosmopolitan, Glamour, Vogue, &amp; Marie Claire magazines. Thus, increasing the buying power! Men are not the biggest consumers of these magazines. Women are! In fact, if you were to observe most men magazines (Maxim, King, Black Men and FHM), then you would notice the women are a little more curvier. For some of us who want to equate fat and curves, sorry to inform you, they&#039;re not synonomous. Curves are breasts, hips, and booty. It has very little to do with excess body fat. Trust me, I have all of the above.
 If you&#039;re fat and content. Accept it. But don&#039;t cry a river and expect every fashion designer, magazine, or every other man to accept it. Who knows, maybe purchasing magazines like Cosmo has more of a deep-rooted psychological issue. This &#039;bizarre&#039; desire for women to obsessively compete and compare themselves to other women. Of course, competing for the attention of most men. Although, the Fat Acceptance Movement are telling most women to accept their body size, nevertheless I also believe it&#039;s an indirect message to most men ...ALL MEN ACCEPT ALL PLUS SIZE WOMEN AS WELL!... So that we no longer have to compete with smaller women. Just my observation!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I do kickboxing, pilates, belly dancing, African-dance, yoga and basic calisthenics. Oh, I also run in the fall/spring. I do not believe in dieting. I just eat the foods that I love in moderation. It&#8217;s called MENTAL WILLPOWER! I&#8217;m in great shape. To be honest, I have very little sympathy for the women who are complaining about discriminiation and obesity. As a minority, I find it quite absurd actually. If I whined about every racial remark or discrimination I have encountered, I wouldn&#8217;t have room left to breathe. I just simply ignore it. The world is harsh. Get over it!
 I find it quite ironic that most women object to the idealistic beauty standards &#8216;supposedly&#8217; set forth by men &amp; the media. But yet, buy Cosmopolitan, Glamour, Vogue, &amp; Marie Claire magazines. Thus, increasing the buying power! Men are not the biggest consumers of these magazines. Women are! In fact, if you were to observe most men magazines (Maxim, King, Black Men and FHM), then you would notice the women are a little more curvier. For some of us who want to equate fat and curves, sorry to inform you, they&#8217;re not synonomous. Curves are breasts, hips, and booty. It has very little to do with excess body fat. Trust me, I have all of the above.
 If you&#8217;re fat and content. Accept it. But don&#8217;t cry a river and expect every fashion designer, magazine, or every other man to accept it. Who knows, maybe purchasing magazines like Cosmo has more of a deep-rooted psychological issue. This &#8216;bizarre&#8217; desire for women to obsessively compete and compare themselves to other women. Of course, competing for the attention of most men. Although, the Fat Acceptance Movement are telling most women to accept their body size, nevertheless I also believe it&#8217;s an indirect message to most men &#8230;ALL MEN ACCEPT ALL PLUS SIZE WOMEN AS WELL!&#8230; So that we no longer have to compete with smaller women. Just my observation!]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Gudakunst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suzanne Gudakunst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think there&#039;s a fine line that people who&#039;ve never struggled with weight, or watched a family member struggle, don&#039;t always understand.  Like many people said, there&#039;s not a lot of sympathy for the person who complains about not being able to lose weight while holding a Coke in one hand and an ice cream cone in the other. However, some people really do try, but get discouraged easily and need our support to continue their efforts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I think there&#8217;s a fine line that people who&#8217;ve never struggled with weight, or watched a family member struggle, don&#8217;t always understand.  Like many people said, there&#8217;s not a lot of sympathy for the person who complains about not being able to lose weight while holding a Coke in one hand and an ice cream cone in the other. However, some people really do try, but get discouraged easily and need our support to continue their efforts.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;224 pounds? My brother, who is 6ft tall, weighs less than that - and he ain&#039;t thin. There is no excuse for a woman to weigh that much. Let&#039;s stop applauding her and save our praise for people who have the strength to transform their bodies.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[224 pounds? My brother, who is 6ft tall, weighs less than that &#8211; and he ain&#8217;t thin. There is no excuse for a woman to weigh that much. Let&#8217;s stop applauding her and save our praise for people who have the strength to transform their bodies.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lauriejane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauriejane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You need a certain amount of personal strength and a good feeling of self-regard before you can understake improvement of your health and image. One problem that fat people have is that they become depressed and feel like giving up on themselves. It IS depressing to live in a world that regards a physical condition--obesity--as a personality and character flaw. For many of us, the decision to workout and eat right is a decision that comes with the willingness to fight for ourselves. We have to feel we are worth it before we can give ourselves the gift of fitness. We have to believe we can do it and that we deserve it. If you don&#039;t begin with some self-acceptance and the belief that you are more than one aspect of your body, it will be impossible to go through the hard work of changing.  One thing you have to do when you change your habits is stand up to all of those people who are constantly trying to get you to eat--that includes friends, acquaintances, co-workers, relatives, spouses, magazines, TV ads, and, most of all, all of the multi-billion dollar industries that are dependent on our being fat(food/chemical/diet/medical/drug etc.). It is hard to change habits, and hard to stand up to what I have come to call an &quot;obesogenic&quot; society where everything is designed to make you consume more, eat more, and schedules are not designed to include much time for exercise. You have to be strong to do that. For some of us, that means a certain amount of &quot;fat acceptance,&quot; the unwillingness to take crap from others because we are fat. People give me a hard time about my weight here in ultra slim So Cal where I live and I have just lost 70 lbs! (I still have about 60 lbs more to lose so, to a stranger, I am just another fat lady who doesn&#039;t care about her weight or appearance). I say, do whatever you have to and think whatever you have to in order to be strong enough for the fat fight. For many of us, especially women, a certain reasonable amount of fat acceptance helps us be strong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[You need a certain amount of personal strength and a good feeling of self-regard before you can understake improvement of your health and image. One problem that fat people have is that they become depressed and feel like giving up on themselves. It IS depressing to live in a world that regards a physical condition&#8211;obesity&#8211;as a personality and character flaw. For many of us, the decision to workout and eat right is a decision that comes with the willingness to fight for ourselves. We have to feel we are worth it before we can give ourselves the gift of fitness. We have to believe we can do it and that we deserve it. If you don&#8217;t begin with some self-acceptance and the belief that you are more than one aspect of your body, it will be impossible to go through the hard work of changing.  One thing you have to do when you change your habits is stand up to all of those people who are constantly trying to get you to eat&#8211;that includes friends, acquaintances, co-workers, relatives, spouses, magazines, TV ads, and, most of all, all of the multi-billion dollar industries that are dependent on our being fat(food/chemical/diet/medical/drug etc.). It is hard to change habits, and hard to stand up to what I have come to call an &#8220;obesogenic&#8221; society where everything is designed to make you consume more, eat more, and schedules are not designed to include much time for exercise. You have to be strong to do that. For some of us, that means a certain amount of &#8220;fat acceptance,&#8221; the unwillingness to take crap from others because we are fat. People give me a hard time about my weight here in ultra slim So Cal where I live and I have just lost 70 lbs! (I still have about 60 lbs more to lose so, to a stranger, I am just another fat lady who doesn&#8217;t care about her weight or appearance). I say, do whatever you have to and think whatever you have to in order to be strong enough for the fat fight. For many of us, especially women, a certain reasonable amount of fat acceptance helps us be strong.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Neel</title>
		<link>http://www.starling-fitness.com/archives/2007/04/23/a-fat-rant-by-joy-nash/#comment-110765</link>
		<dc:creator>Neel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 06:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look at the number of Joy Nash comments(my blog included)! I liked the spunk that came across. You got to deal with  your body image perception first. Once you do that, then what anyone else says doesn&#039;t matter one bit!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Look at the number of Joy Nash comments(my blog included)! I liked the spunk that came across. You got to deal with  your body image perception first. Once you do that, then what anyone else says doesn&#8217;t matter one bit!]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 23:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I weigh and 235 and so what. I love you girl. Keep it up.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I weigh and 235 and so what. I love you girl. Keep it up.]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: kevin   milner</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin   milner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 23:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hi joy i think you look beaut-full will you marry me&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[hi joy i think you look beaut-full will you marry me]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Marsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Marsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 21:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Perhaps the primary problem is emotionally eating, as though it replaces something else that should be there but is not.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If someone says, &quot;never saw a cookie I didn&#039;t like&quot;, the cookie didn&#039;t dislike anybody, either.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Things like chocolate or sugar do create a physiological high in some people, myself included.  And it is perfectly legal and generally socially tolerated.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;d never consider a beer vending machine at work.  Probably not a cigarette machine.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But snack machine?  What&#039;s the problem with candy?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s not even age-restricted!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Come on, it will make you feel good, forget stuff- for a while.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;Muriel, finish your org__m.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We&#039;ve never had a case of AIDS, an accidental pregnancy, or broken heart over an ice cream shake yet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Snack foods, beer, cigs, drugs, don&#039;t have prejudices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Even if a person makes an effort to live without prejudice, prejudice still happens.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Recognize prejudice, recognize feelings, recognize everyone has feelings.  Then maybe we can do something constructive with all that sugar, turn it into gasohol for our cars!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[Perhaps the primary problem is emotionally eating, as though it replaces something else that should be there but is not.

If someone says, &#8220;never saw a cookie I didn&#8217;t like&#8221;, the cookie didn&#8217;t dislike anybody, either.

Things like chocolate or sugar do create a physiological high in some people, myself included.  And it is perfectly legal and generally socially tolerated.

We&#8217;d never consider a beer vending machine at work.  Probably not a cigarette machine.

But snack machine?  What&#8217;s the problem with candy?

It&#8217;s not even age-restricted!

Come on, it will make you feel good, forget stuff- for a while.

&#8220;Muriel, finish your org__m.&#8221;

We&#8217;ve never had a case of AIDS, an accidental pregnancy, or broken heart over an ice cream shake yet.

Snack foods, beer, cigs, drugs, don&#8217;t have prejudices.

Even if a person makes an effort to live without prejudice, prejudice still happens.

Recognize prejudice, recognize feelings, recognize everyone has feelings.  Then maybe we can do something constructive with all that sugar, turn it into gasohol for our cars!]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;*of Oreos&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Sofia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sofia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 01:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t discriminate against fat people, but I think there is a difference with a fat person living a healthy lifestyle and a fat person who&#039;s not taking care of him/herself. I have less sympathy to those who complain about being fat but still turning down an apple for a sleeve for Oreos.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t discriminate against fat people, but I think there is a difference with a fat person living a healthy lifestyle and a fat person who&#8217;s not taking care of him/herself. I have less sympathy to those who complain about being fat but still turning down an apple for a sleeve for Oreos.]]></content:encoded>
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